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		<title>Comment on Processing tutorial: inheritance and abstract classes by Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tutorial, just what I was looking for.
Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tutorial, just what I was looking for.<br />
Cheers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On &#8220;topical&#8221; exhibitions; Locations at Paula Cooper Gallery by tom moody</title>
		<link>http://beausievers.com/blog/index.php/2011/05/15/topical-exhibitions-locations/comment-page-1/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>tom moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 17:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may not know it but I&#039;m a wealthy man--because I actually received a nickel for every show about &quot;site,&quot; &quot;location&quot;, &quot;place,&quot; &quot;space&quot; and (let&#039;s throw this in) &quot;the body.&quot; These are among the laziest curatorial hooks imaginable, but the shows don&#039;t stop coming. You have pretty well nailed it that 521 W 21st Street is the main &quot;location&quot; that ultimately matters here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may not know it but I&#8217;m a wealthy man&#8211;because I actually received a nickel for every show about &#8220;site,&#8221; &#8220;location&#8221;, &#8220;place,&#8221; &#8220;space&#8221; and (let&#8217;s throw this in) &#8220;the body.&#8221; These are among the laziest curatorial hooks imaginable, but the shows don&#8217;t stop coming. You have pretty well nailed it that 521 W 21st Street is the main &#8220;location&#8221; that ultimately matters here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Logic of Historical Debt by beau&#039;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Locations at Paula Cooper Gallery</title>
		<link>http://beausievers.com/blog/index.php/2011/04/19/the-logic-of-historical-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>beau&#039;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Locations at Paula Cooper Gallery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my earlier post about various &#8220;distancing&#8221; strategies used in music by e.g. Ligeti and in visual art by e.g. the artists of PaintFX, I don&#8217;t want [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my earlier post about various &#8220;distancing&#8221; strategies used in music by e.g. Ligeti and in visual art by e.g. the artists of PaintFX, I don&#8217;t want [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Logic of Historical Debt by beau</title>
		<link>http://beausievers.com/blog/index.php/2011/04/19/the-logic-of-historical-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ligeti was a very serious self-promoter... he talked a lot about the new, and being new, and how to be new, and how the only way to succeed was to be truly new, but that one also had to have &quot;quality,&quot; this transcendent property that would alone satisfy the expectations of the judging elite. That these things might be in conflict never really seems to come up for him; though I suspect he had some trade secrets. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muw.edu/honors/politmusic.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Don’t confuse musical structure with social and economic concerns which are on a different plane!&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

That&#039;s a really good point about funding. I think I only really have a problem with these strategic relationships with the past when they support old bad social/political/economic structures instead of critiquing or actively restructuring them. This is an easy enough problem to ignore when these structures aren&#039;t considered part of the history of the art, but are &quot;on a different plane.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ligeti was a very serious self-promoter&#8230; he talked a lot about the new, and being new, and how to be new, and how the only way to succeed was to be truly new, but that one also had to have &#8220;quality,&#8221; this transcendent property that would alone satisfy the expectations of the judging elite. That these things might be in conflict never really seems to come up for him; though I suspect he had some trade secrets. <a href="http://www.muw.edu/honors/politmusic.htm" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Don’t confuse musical structure with social and economic concerns which are on a different plane!&#8221;</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a really good point about funding. I think I only really have a problem with these strategic relationships with the past when they support old bad social/political/economic structures instead of critiquing or actively restructuring them. This is an easy enough problem to ignore when these structures aren&#8217;t considered part of the history of the art, but are &#8220;on a different plane.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Logic of Historical Debt by tom moody</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did not know that about Ligeti (positioning his work as &quot;after&quot; others&#039;), interesting. An article of faith for Modernist-era painters was you worked through others&#039; work, rebelled, and your individual style-slash-statement emerged from that process. For example, Gorky obsessively, privately repainted Cezannes and Picassos (I think it was those two) until the public &quot;Gorky&quot; emerged. It&#039;s more problematic to do this in the tech or online era because the &quot;working through&quot; process roots you even more deeply in a material practice, whereas the most obvious way to rebel or be &quot;after&quot; something is to stop painting and begin the hard business of translating that skillset into virtual terms (or abandon the skillset altogether). I suppose the equivalent problem in music is disentangling oneself from a mindset and funding infrastructure that emphasizes orchestral works played with wood and metal instruments but it always seemed to me that musicians had the jump on visual artists in the embrace of electronic modes of working. (Possibly because music is immaterial to begin with.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did not know that about Ligeti (positioning his work as &#8220;after&#8221; others&#8217;), interesting. An article of faith for Modernist-era painters was you worked through others&#8217; work, rebelled, and your individual style-slash-statement emerged from that process. For example, Gorky obsessively, privately repainted Cezannes and Picassos (I think it was those two) until the public &#8220;Gorky&#8221; emerged. It&#8217;s more problematic to do this in the tech or online era because the &#8220;working through&#8221; process roots you even more deeply in a material practice, whereas the most obvious way to rebel or be &#8220;after&#8221; something is to stop painting and begin the hard business of translating that skillset into virtual terms (or abandon the skillset altogether). I suppose the equivalent problem in music is disentangling oneself from a mindset and funding infrastructure that emphasizes orchestral works played with wood and metal instruments but it always seemed to me that musicians had the jump on visual artists in the embrace of electronic modes of working. (Possibly because music is immaterial to begin with.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bone Alphabet by Peter Selzar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Selzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I&#039;m sticking to my original observation.

You write &quot;The score is written not to provide some platonic ideal of The Music, but as instruction for a performer about how to move their body.&quot;

This already assumes that the score represents material that has some musical worth. But in my opinion, Ferneyhough&#039;s score has no musical worth whatsoever. Or put another way: whatever ideas he has, he&#039;s incapable of HONESTLY creating SINCERE artistic expression from it. There&#039;s a nice quote which shows this... displaying that Ferneyhough may have interesting thoughts, which he likes to articulate (see his talking and writing - which is often incoherent rubbish, but mildly interesting), yet the moment he wants to put it into music, it fails, since he does not understand the art of music. 

Quote:
&quot;[...] Ferneyhough’s risks may have seemed too great at times, his compositional solutions failing to live up to his stimulating, endlessly questing diagnosis of the problems as a highly engaging public speaker, self-confident and articulate.&quot;

Perhaps he should stick to speaking his incoherent (but perhaps mildly interesting, yet definitely engaging and self-confident!) garbage, or put it into words; rather than try put it into music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I&#8217;m sticking to my original observation.</p>
<p>You write &#8220;The score is written not to provide some platonic ideal of The Music, but as instruction for a performer about how to move their body.&#8221;</p>
<p>This already assumes that the score represents material that has some musical worth. But in my opinion, Ferneyhough&#8217;s score has no musical worth whatsoever. Or put another way: whatever ideas he has, he&#8217;s incapable of HONESTLY creating SINCERE artistic expression from it. There&#8217;s a nice quote which shows this&#8230; displaying that Ferneyhough may have interesting thoughts, which he likes to articulate (see his talking and writing &#8211; which is often incoherent rubbish, but mildly interesting), yet the moment he wants to put it into music, it fails, since he does not understand the art of music. </p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;[...] Ferneyhough’s risks may have seemed too great at times, his compositional solutions failing to live up to his stimulating, endlessly questing diagnosis of the problems as a highly engaging public speaker, self-confident and articulate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps he should stick to speaking his incoherent (but perhaps mildly interesting, yet definitely engaging and self-confident!) garbage, or put it into words; rather than try put it into music.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bone Alphabet by beau</title>
		<link>http://beausievers.com/blog/index.php/2008/07/16/bone-alphabet/comment-page-1/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to disagree. And reading the comments on that YouTube video makes it quite clear why Mr. Karre disabled comments on his.

It&#039;s missing the point to say something like &quot;this piece is non-musical because it doesn&#039;t allow for complete fidelity to the written score.&quot; The score is written not to provide some platonic ideal of The Music, but as instruction for a performer about how to move their body. How those very complicated instructions play out in performance — in this case as a series of gestures with a flickering sense of pulse — is interesting, regardless of whether or not it&#039;s completely by-the-book. When Ferneyhough says &quot;the impulse-structure and its audibility are clearly variably perceptible in concrete compositional situations,&quot; I think this is a part of what he&#039;s getting at.

Also, reducing music and deforming it is a part of any sane, tractable learning process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to disagree. And reading the comments on that YouTube video makes it quite clear why Mr. Karre disabled comments on his.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s missing the point to say something like &#8220;this piece is non-musical because it doesn&#8217;t allow for complete fidelity to the written score.&#8221; The score is written not to provide some platonic ideal of The Music, but as instruction for a performer about how to move their body. How those very complicated instructions play out in performance — in this case as a series of gestures with a flickering sense of pulse — is interesting, regardless of whether or not it&#8217;s completely by-the-book. When Ferneyhough says &#8220;the impulse-structure and its audibility are clearly variably perceptible in concrete compositional situations,&#8221; I think this is a part of what he&#8217;s getting at.</p>
<p>Also, reducing music and deforming it is a part of any sane, tractable learning process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bone Alphabet by Peter Selzar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Selzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferneyhough… is not a composer.
While he has some non-musical &quot;ideas&quot; (philosophical etc. – see his writings), he’s unable to put his ideas (or rather: whims of ego-mania) into music.

...take a look at this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTvzfP23zwk
where you can see Ferneyhough himself, reducing and deforming his own music to simple elementary beats.

Will anyone ever need any more proof that he has no MUSICAL understanding whatsoever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferneyhough… is not a composer.<br />
While he has some non-musical &#8220;ideas&#8221; (philosophical etc. – see his writings), he’s unable to put his ideas (or rather: whims of ego-mania) into music.</p>
<p>&#8230;take a look at this video, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTvzfP23zwk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTvzfP23zwk</a><br />
where you can see Ferneyhough himself, reducing and deforming his own music to simple elementary beats.</p>
<p>Will anyone ever need any more proof that he has no MUSICAL understanding whatsoever?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Processing tutorial: inheritance and abstract classes by Loan Myers</title>
		<link>http://beausievers.com/blog/index.php/2009/07/08/processing-tutorial-inheritance-and-abstract-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Loan Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 08:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Beau,

thanks for the tutorial. This is the answer I&#039;ve been looking for all day!

Cheers. And I&#039;m going to bookmark your site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beau,</p>
<p>thanks for the tutorial. This is the answer I&#8217;ve been looking for all day!</p>
<p>Cheers. And I&#8217;m going to bookmark your site!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Processing tutorial: inheritance and abstract classes by Beau Sievers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beau Sievers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks. Good to hear this has been of use to someone. Some day I will finish this series, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks. Good to hear this has been of use to someone. Some day I will finish this series, maybe.</p>
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